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In Tragedy, a true crime podcast, we discuss missing persons' cases, violent crime, and other sensitive topics that may be difficult for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. Our show is a place where every story matters and every voice deserves to be heard. To support this podcast, you can subscribe at www.tragedy a true crime podcast.com for early access to new episodes. And join our Facebook community, Tragedy, a True Crime Podcast, for updates, discussions, and ways to support the families we feature. Welcome to Tragedy, a True Crime Podcast. I'm Elisa.

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And I'm Michael.

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And today we're speaking with Mitzi Wilson, who knew Audrey through mutual friends. They spent time in shared circles, giving Mitzi an opportunity to know Audrey through regular interactions and gatherings. Mitzi joins us to share her perspective on who Audrey was during that time, what she observed within their social circle, and what she recalls about the days surrounding Audrey's disappearance. Her insight helps us add context to the broader timeline and the the environment in which Audrey was listening. Thank you for being here and welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

Thank you for having me, and it's uh a true blessing to uh be speaking to the two of you to allow Audrey's beautiful uh persona and character and who she was to be known. Um so thank you. Thank you for reaching out to me. Yes, we're we're so happy to have you.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

All right, so I mean the people who've been listening this season already know we've kind of started this process and we we're gonna ask you a couple of just fun questions to get to know you a little better and you can get to know us a little better. And so at least you want to kick off our questions?

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Yeah, okay. Question number one Do you prefer books or movies? Movies for sure. I think we're all going to agree, all three of us are going to be that.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Yeah, with me, I'm I'm in the center a little bit. I mean, I enjoy reading, but um, I have I have trouble with fiction. I prefer nonfiction. Just because I don't I don't like reading 45 pages of how a coffee table looked in a room, and that's what a lot of these bigger novels will do. Yeah. I also like the idea of getting in and out of the theater in two and a half hours and have my popcorn and my drink, and I'm like, now I know what happened. I'm not one of those people who go, oh, the book is always better. There's always that person, and I'm always I always pity that person, actually.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

So how about you? I just love I love watching the settings, I love watching the people and being able to see their expressions. Um so movies for me are definitely a go. I I'm not a reader uh per se. I have found myself reading some financial books and things like that, but for the most part, I really am more of a visual person, I think.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Yes, I I desperately wanted to be a reader because as a teacher, so many people um they oh the book was so great. And I've tried so many times, it's just not in me. Um there's a I've I do I have read several Stephen King books, but there's one particular Stephen King book I've tried to read like, I don't know, seven or eight times. And I just I just don't think I have the capacity to read a whole book. I just don't.

SPEAKER_03 3:20

You know what I enjoy reading is magazine articles. I think um maybe my my um long-term span to read a book is is not just quite there. So uh a short book or or or a magazine seems to catch me well.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Yes, I think I'm on that same same path. So here's question number two. What was your favorite family tradition growing up?

SPEAKER_03 3:46

My favorite family tradition growing up was going to my father's um uh grandpa so my grandparents, my grandparents' home. Um, and my mother's uh father's um oh finca, which I for some reason it's a farm, a farm. My my grandfather had a fruit farm. So I think one of the most beautiful things for me was um some weekends we would go to my grandfather for my mother's side, and we would just be at his um old farmhouse and and and swim and go into the farm trees, and um he had sugar cane fields, and so we would drive down with him in in his old green Jeep, and uh he would cut the sugar cane right right there on the spot and we would, you know, suck on it. So it was pure, pure sugar high, that's for sure. And then uh some Sundays we would go to my uh father's uh parents' house, and all the cousins would gather, and we all became really close. So they're just really beautiful, fun memories.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

I know the sugar came from a trip I took to Hawaii when I was in third grade or something, and I remember us doing that on some touristy trap trip that we did when we were there, but it did stick with me. Um, for me, I spent my entire life in Colorado, and one of the traditions we had, if the weather allowed, was to play a round of golf on New Year's Eve.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

Wow.

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Um, I'm an only child, so it's just my mom and my dad and I. And more often than not, we were able to play a round of golf on New Year's Eve, and my dad would always make a pot of chili. So we play golf and go have chili and like play some cards or something like that. That was like our New Year's Eve tradition.

SPEAKER_03 5:38

Very nice.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Yeah, with me it was Eastern. You know, one of the things that was very traditional when I was growing up is all the different parts of the family would come. The one thing that they would always get together on would be Easter. And so you'd have 40, 50 people at these big parks. Usually we'd go to like Walcala Springs and things like that, which is an area around here. And um, the Easter egg hunt in particular was very interesting for me. Of course, I got I got banned from hiding eggs at some point because what I started doing is dyeing the eggs to match the things that I knew were there, and so there's a rock?

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Is that what you mean?

SPEAKER_00 6:11

So therefore, whenever I hid the eggs, it was absolutely impossible for anyone to find them, and you'd be looking right at it, and I'd match the tree perfectly. And so as a result, but I I still love the memory, it's always a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

I didn't know that. I you've never talked about that. It's one of the things we love about this is even after being together, what, 20 plus years, we do these, you know, little icebreaker. I'm like, oh, I didn't know that about you. So thank you for sharing.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Yeah, yeah. Oh, all right. So thank you for doing that with us. Um, we just love um, oh, you know what? I forgot about question number three. I got so wrapped up in your story. All right, question number three. If you didn't have any responsibilities, how would you spend your day?

SPEAKER_03 6:55

I would travel. I would go from place to place, from hotel room to hotel room, um, sightseeing, experiencing life, going to spas. Oh my goodness. That that's my passion. Taking photographs of everything and anything I'd like.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Okay, so we spend a lot of time on the road. Something that I do only when we're in a place that I know like is going to be a good spot for this, is I will take a spa day. And and usually it's a very, if we're in a city, I go to like the swankiest hotel spa I can find. And I buy pro tip, I book the cheapest experience I can, which is usually a pedicure, and then I spend the whole day in the spa and I use all the bathroom things and every towel and yes, every cucumber on my eye, and I eat all the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

That's right. That's right. That's my girl right there. I hear you.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

I've done that in San Francisco, in Boston. I mean, you name it city, then I've done it. So Las Vegas, I've done it several times too. So see, she she gets it. We're we're on the same page. Exactly. For me, uh, if I had no responsibilities, I think I would sit out in the sun. I just love sitting and having the sun, just I feeling the warmth of the sun. Um, gosh, I think I would go for a lot of walks. Um, and I would be able to spend more time dedicated to our families that we're supporting through this podcast and not, you know, those other J O B things that I have to do.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Me. And I already know what Michael's is, but I'm gonna go ahead and let him say it.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

It's fly fishing. Yes. Um that's my addiction or my passion or my obsession, and so however you want to call it, religion. And so I would definitely spend most of my time, you know, knee deep in a trout stream somewhere out west, and it would just disappear into the wild.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

It's um amazing you say that because I have some memories of um my my now ex-husband uh fly fishing uh near Audrey's house. Um and I remember fly fishing, just uh looking at it, thinking, what an elegant and beautiful sport it is. I just think it's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

It is. It's uh I you Michael had to take it up when he came to Colorado. He's originally from Florida, and when he moved out to Colorado and we met, he's like, where do we go fishing? And I'm like, I I have no idea. I did not fish. And he learned pretty quickly that fly fishing is what he was going to need to do. You know, it's much different from fishing the flats or out here in the Florida area. And so I sort of learned to fly fish with him because I realized pretty early on that if I wanted to spend any significant amount of time with him, I was going to need to like fly fishing. And it turns out I do because I can sit and I can enjoy the sun and I'm not bad myself.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Not at all.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

I'm that's nice. Yes, I'm pretty good. So that is a priority for us as we are traveling. All right, so now we have done all the questions. Uh thank you for that. Um, we really appreciate you just taking some time out of this to, you know, add some a little bit of levity and get us to know you a little better. And there we've made some connections, fly fishing and spas. I love it. Yeah, and movies. Perfect. All right, well, let's um shift gears and let's talk about Audrey. And the first thing we almost always ask our guests is to tell the tell our listeners about Audrey and what would you like people to know about her?

SPEAKER_03 10:31

She was just one of us girls, you know, doing the best she could in life. Um, she was, you know, a very dedicated nurse, um, you know, and she uh absolutely was an outstanding woman with great morals and um a smile that would just melt you. Um she was very, very cute. Uh she was um she she always seemed happy, uh at least any time that she and I spent together. She was just an absolute pleasure to be around. Um, an amazing mother, just very dedicated to her family, an excellent daughter, loved her mom and and her dad. Um you know, her kids were the world. Um, an excellent worker, an excellent friend, uh, an excellent sister and and daughter, like I said, she just she's just genuine, very genuine, very um, very down to earth. Audrey was never about you know, show and and and and lies and and being two-faced. Never ever ever. She was just always genuine and and caring. Um and one of the things that I that I missed the most about her is how she loved. She just loved wholeheartedly. And um, you know, when I when I met Audrey, I was very young, and you know, through life you meet people who you know stick around, and and and there are some people that you meet just for you know a period of time. You find friends who um you come become close with and and others who you know are just uh you know more of an acquaintance. But I have to say that for me, Audrey was the first friend that I had in my life who just accepted me and saw me exactly for who I was and just loved me. And so I I don't mean to sound um arrogant in any way, but what I'm trying to express is that she was the first woman who showed me how another friend loves you and is there for you. So to not have her in my life has been so hurtful because she just showed me that love, that love and that friendship, where you know, she was my confidant and someone who lifted me up and someone I could lean on. And when I walked in her house, her arms were always wide open to receive me. It was just so welcoming walking into her home. And uh she was also a fantastic wife. I mean, she was so dedicated to Jeff and and to those children, so that's who I think of Audrey um as. I think of just the most beautiful woman. Um and and we are just so sad not to have her. It's just really sad.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

We'd like to kind of take you back to some of the time before Audrey disappeared, and and the specific question is you know, how much time were you spending around Audrey, maybe in the days and months leading up to her disappearance? And if you were, did you notice anything different or unusual about her behavior or some of the things that she was doing?

SPEAKER_03 14:20

I spent a lot of time with Audrey. And I wish at at some point my my memory could sort of go back and be able to, in a sense, look at this uh friendship as a movie and be able to remember much more than I probably do today. But what I can say is that if I wasn't home, I was working. If I wasn't working or home, I was with Audrey. In her home, it felt like where we gather most, because she was a mom and she had young kids, and I didn't. So it was much easier for me to be able to come to her house and be able to help her with the daily tasks, which I absolutely loved, and she was so kind and generous to share with me. Um, you know, she was a stay-at-home mom for a while, and um she grew, you know, was so grateful to have me come. And the second I walked in, she would hand me those babies and I would go bathe them or I would feed them, you know, and so that she could have her uh coffee and her cigarette break. And uh she would just be so happy that I was there, and I felt so happy to be there to help my friend and to hang out with her, and um you know, we would go shopping um every few months. Um uh we would go to the movies, we would we would go out for you know, a coffee or a glass of wine. Um so we we we did quite a bit together, but mostly it was surrounded by family, by her children, by her husband, by my husband. Um and I just thought that uh her her behavior and her actions were always just her, completely normal. Uh that of a of a country girl, you know, she she was truly a country girl, just uh very easygoing, very plain in in the sense that she was no no thrills and and and frills. She was she was just her, you know, she with her blonde hair and a little bit of makeup and her jeans and her shirt and with a with a baby always, you know, around her. Um so I did not notice anything abnormal whatsoever in her behavior, and she never ever said to me, I'm concerned about this. It just was never there. It was not a conversation we ever had.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

I am also the person who goes to someone's house and asks for the baby right away. I want to hold the baby, I want to snuggle the baby, I want to feed the baby. I always do those things. Anytime there's someone that we go and visit, um like, let me hold your baby, go take a nap, um, go take a walk, you know, whatever they they feel like they need to do so. We we have that in common as well.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Yeah, I always warned friends and colleagues if that if they've never met Elisa and they have a baby. I just say, just so you know, she's gonna want to hold your baby, just hand it over when she gets here.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

That's awesome. And the thing that was so extra special with Audrey and I is that I unfortunately suffered uh two miscarriages, two losses, and I had a really, really hard time uh conceiving again, and I actually never did again. But I never felt jealous about a pregnant woman. I always rejoiced their their big bump. And Audrey was extremely generous and kind to just allow me to live her pregnancies with her. So she, you know, when I came into Audrey's life, uh Sansia was um her old her oldest was already two or so, two or three maybe. And then um she became pregnant with Katie, and um I'm Katie's godmother, uh just quite the honor. But Jeff and her allowed me to be in the delivery room with them. So I held one leg while Jeff held the other leg and we delivered Katie. That's amazing. Talk about a friend, talk about uh kindness, talk about compassion, and you know, just wanting to share with me what she had that she knew I couldn't have. And then when she got pregnant with Quinn, same thing happened. I held one leg, Jeff held the other, and we know we delivered that little boy. And when she came home, um, you know, I remember sitting around the table um playing cards with Jeff and and my ex-husband, and and um, of course, my then husband and and and the and Audrey and I, and we would just pass the kids around, pass them around, feed them who's changing. It it was a beautiful time.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Thank you for sharing all that. I I mean the only delivery I ever saw was when I delivered my own child. I've never participated in that way. That's very powerful. So thank you for sharing that with us.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

If it wasn't for Audrey, I would have never experienced that.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

Yeah, you know, that's amazing. We want you to think about um the day that Audrey disappeared and how you found out her about her disappearance and what that day looked like for you.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Yes. So I want to um go back to the week before the day happened. Um, it was Katie's uh fourth birthday party, and we were at Audrey and Jeff's house, and um their house is um uh the basement um has garage doors, and we most often would go through the garage doors to get upstairs where the house actually was. And we're all inside having a good time, and Jeff comes in and says, I have to leave for a moment. My dad's having uh you know to have a conversation with the people that are renting the resort from us, and it has not been going well. Um, they're getting evicted, so I want to accompany my dad and I want to make sure that he is safe. So I knew at that point that something was not going right with the people that were leasing the hotel from Jeff's father, and I just got such a gut-wrenching feeling and you know Jeff left and then he came back and everything was okay. But then when I went to leave, I just vividly remember sitting in the car uh looking at the upstairs windows, which were Sancia's room and Katie's room. And I just remember praying and saying God, please don't let anything happen to these kids or to Audrey. I just had a bad feeling. And I left, went home. The next week, you know, of course I saw Audrey. I talked to Audrey. Everything was fine. The kids were fine. Everything was good. And so, you know, I just went about my days. And then that one morning I was getting ready to go to work. And Jeff called me around seven o'clock in the morning or something like that. You know, the time may not be correct, but I really just remember that it was early. And he said, Mitzi, is Audrey with you? Is she at your house? And I said, No. And he said with a trembling voice, Mitsi, she didn't come home last night from work. And at that very moment, I knew, oh my goodness, what happened to Audrey? Because he was not like Audrey to not come home. Her life revolved around her home and her husband and her children. So I knew something had gone terribly wrong. And then of course I called into work and I immediately went to Jeff and you know his family were were there consoling him and uh you know that by then the police had been involved and it was just a terrible, terrible day.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

And we know that uh several of Audrey's friends participated that day in searching some of the roadways and some of the routes that she would might have taken back and forth. Did you participate in any of those searches?

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Oh yeah, we walked the streets. Um we drove her route, um, we went into her job. Um, we went into the gas station, um, you know, that she would always stop by to get gas and you know, her her cigarettes, um, which was the Cumberland Farms right, you know, by her job. And I mean it it just it's really incredible that we have never been able to find her car no no sight, no whereabouts of Audrey all this time. Oh my goodness, I just this is it's it's it it's irrational, truly. Like how how can this have happened to her? What happened to her? Who took her? She would have never, ever, ever, ever not come home. Ever. It just was not her.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

So it sounds like maybe your sense is something I just heard you say that someone took her. So if it feels like maybe you have a sense that there was some sort of foul play that was involved, and we'd love for you to talk more about that and what you're getting.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Yeah, I mean it's it's the only thing that could have happened to her. She didn't have an accident because we would have been able to find her car. She didn't run away. That was just not her. It was not in her character, it was not in how she lived her life. She would have never left any of us. We were her world. Somebody hurt her. Somebody took her, somebody somebody did something to her, and I don't know who. I just know that this was not voluntary.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Do you have any ideas of uh not maybe not necessarily who was involved, but maybe maybe there was some sort of accident that happened, or do you feel like it was targeted for Audrey? What are your thoughts about that?

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Clearly, she was a target. By whom? That's what I cannot answer. And the FBI and the police have researched and researched and researched, and they have come up with nothing. So I I I I too am at a complete loss. But the only thing that has always been in my mind is, and I don't know who the people were, and I'm not faulting anyone. This is just what my gut instinct told me that the day that I left and that a week later she went missing, is that there was trouble between Jeff's father, Jeff, and the people that were leasing the resort. That is the only thing that I know. Then someone else mentioned at some point that there was a weird guy that was stalking the people at where she worked, but I never heard anything else about that. So in my mind, those are the only two possible outcomes. Did this guy do something to her or did something go wrong with the business partnership that they had and they targeted or Audrey? I don't know what else to think.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

Yeah, I think I know where you're going with this. You what you are doing is is what we do as well when we're speaking to our families, and we call them more like risk factors.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

So, what risk factors may have been surrounding this person that may have led, you know, in a change in behavior or some sort of situation that happened to them. And it sounds like that's kind of what you're you're digging up. So, this what you know about what was going on at I think you're talking about the golf course, right? And the and the leasing.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

And then but it was not the golf course that was being leased, it was the resort. There was a resort right next to the golf course. Okay. The golf course was being managed and ran and owned by Jeff's father. And by and by Jeff, he worked for the the golf course. It was the resort part. And Audrey and I had worked at this resort when when Ron was running the resort part. But then years later, so she and I used to waitress together. But then later on, um, he listed to whomever these people are, I don't know. Um, and that's so so that that's what I know was going bad. And and I and I think that Ron was having them evicted. So that's the only trouble in paradise that I knew of. So that's why I'm like, did something come off of that? I don't know. Um, because Audrey never ever said um, you know, this happened or that happened, or or or she, you know, felt nervous or um insecure about anything that was going on at home or or even you know, even with those with with that mess that was going on, whatever it was. So I mean, I I just don't think that she ever ever felt threatened or anything like that. You know, she she was just living her life. She just went to work, got out of work, and what happened to her is the mystery we are all hoping that at some point we will get answers and clarity for for her children, for for her husband, for her mom, for her dad, for me, for all her friends who adore her and love her, and you know, the the friends who have you know uh always done uh everything they possibly could to keep her her word out. Oh it's it's terrible to to have someone just just disappear.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

What can you tell us about the people who releasing the property?

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Um I don't know who they are. Um from what I understood, they were Russians. Um, but I don't I don't know anything about them. That's really the only thing that I know, if it's even true. Uh I never had any interaction with them. I I have no idea who was leasing that place.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Did you ever have a chance to ask Jeff or Ron particularly about you know that night and the that feeling that you had or just your theories around this seemed to be, you know, maybe one of two things that could have been something that put her at risk. I'm just wondering if you ever opened the conversation with either of them about your concerns.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

No, I never did. You know, that's something that I that I you know told the police officers every time or any time that you know someone asks me questions about Audrey and I'm interviewed, you know, I mention it just because it's the only thing I know. It's it's my my intuition. Um and you know, I I just remember, you know, in in previous conversations, you know, just just knowing that they're they were having trouble there because Jeff had mentioned that you know their dad was having them evicted because I think that they were not paying the rent. Um and and so that's how I knew that there was trouble there. Um but I don't I don't I don't know of anything else. I don't know who they are. I don't I I mean again, I it could be completely, you know, a business gone bed and it has nothing to do with Audrey. I don't know. I'm just saying that it was just odd to me that that that day I I left and I feel like, oh God, please let not that trouble come into her home.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

Have you ever heard any um wraparound from law enforcement when you share that kind of information? Do they say, oh, we investigated that? Do, or they just thank you for the information and and they don't circle back.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

That's right. They just thank me for whatever information I have given them, and you know, the rest is in their hands.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

We have asked for um an official release of records from um the New York State troopers. I think I requested that about six weeks ago. That's right. And I did. The nice thing is I did get an immediate response that you know, that's we've received your request. It has this claim number, um, and then we just wait uh and see if we're able to get something. I was also able to uh have an email chain with Trooper Gabriel, which was great. And he answered several questions, and of course, many of them were I can't, you know, release this information. And I did follow up with the records release, and he said, Oh, that's that's that's out of my hands. Um, but you know, you're in the system, and hopefully we'll get something. And as soon as we do, we'll go through it and we'll be able to share. We're looking specifically for certain things, particularly around this conversation that you're having. And then we also are very interested. I don't know if you know this, but there's been some on our end at least confusion about Audrey's purse. And was it with her that night? Was it at her house? And did she typically take it with her when she went places? And that might be something you can help us with.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

I am guessing I think her purse was with her. It makes no sense to me unless she forgot it that night that it would have been home. I think her purse was with her.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

And do you know if it was at the house? Because uh some people have said, I think I saw her purse at the house that day that she disappeared, and other people are not sure. And I just wonder if you it's I know it's a very specific recollection, but I'm wondering if you have thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

I do not. I would be completely guessing. Yeah. It's certainly not something that I ever paid paid attention to. My my focus was not on her purse, my focus was simply on finding her and finding the vehicle, obviously, because that would that would that would tell a story.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

Um, so the purse was not something that I focused on at all.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

And I think that is what other people have said too. They're like, I can't buy. Maybe I saw it, maybe I didn't saw it. It's all speculation, right? Until hopefully we can get somewhere definite. And then there was some conversation about did she have one stethoscope or two stethoscopes? Because it seems like maybe Sancia has one. And you know, these are just things that have happened. What Marie was describing to us, and actually Karina as well, is these conversations have really helped them maybe to bring things to the front of their mind that they haven't thought about in a while, or think about something from a different perspective. Or Jeannie, for example, who spoke with us, and then she'll say, she'll text me like a couple days. Oh, I thought about this. And so really one of our purposes, other than to make sure that you all have the time and space to, you know, share your recollections of Audrea and and what she meant to you, but also sometimes it jars loose thoughts and and things that we remember, then we can send forward and maybe it will move this case in some sort of positive direction.

SPEAKER_03 35:47

Yeah, and I mean, I'm sure that a lot of that, you know, is uh, you know, trying to find the answer. Did she make it home and then went missing? Or did she truly not make it home? Um, but I can't testify to that at all.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Do you know anything about the tire that's come into question in a few conversations we've had where it talks about the tire, the spare tire to the Jeep being at the house and not in the Jeep? And that a lot of people some people think that's strange. We have to admit it is strange, but there's also ways to explain it when it comes to what she had in the back of the Jeep and everything like that. Do you have any information on that?

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Not at all. I didn't didn't even know that the spare tire was not in the vehicle. That's not something that you know I've ever talked about with Jeff or or that anybody has brought to light to me. So I don't know anything about the tire. And again, I uh that that's pointing to, ooh, did she make it home?

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Mm-hmm. But you feel it sounds like you feel very strongly that something happened to her somewhere along her route and that it was targeted towards her.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Let me tell you, um obviously Jeff is a suspect. The husband always is. But from my heart, from my soul, from my intuition, from knowing Jeff, from knowing how he cared about Audrey and how he loved his family and the man that that he is, I would stand on the top of the mountain and I would say it over and over again, but that man did not hurt his wife. He would never take her away from her three children or from himself. He loved her. That was very clear to me. And he was always, always involved with us. He was never distant. He always cared to have us around. He did everything for Audrey and for those kids. He was a hard worker, and another man who truly loves his family. So if you ask me, I will shout it out loud. Jeff did not harm her. He did not, not from what I know of him, not from what I know of their life. And if someone was to prove me wrong in the future, wow, it would be devastating and absolutely shocking. Um and that's what I have to say about that.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Is there anything that you wanted to share that we did not give you an opportunity to speak about?

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Um, just you know, how um how well her children have done, you know, in the midst of all of this. You know, Sancia, what a what a woman. Oh my goodness gracious, what a wonderful, wonderful young lady she has become, and Katie and Quinn. I mean, both just you know, doing what they do, uh, live their life to the fullest. Um and I think that Sanscia's father is to be commended for always being there for Sanscia. I think that Jeff is to be commended for always being there for Katie and Quinn. Um you know, losing a mom is um is is tragic in in any light. Um these children have grown up without her, um, but they have made a life for themselves. They have, you know, um studied and educated themselves and become nurses, both girls. Um, and Cyncia now is is a mom, you know. She she she would make Audrey proud and Katie. Uh my goodness, what a lovely young lady. And and I know that Audrey would be so proud of her and Quinn, I mean her little boy, who is not so little anymore. And I just give all three of them um so much grace and so much uh compassion for having to grow up without Audrey and for doing so well for for themselves.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

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