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And I'm Michael.

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And today we'll be continuing our story about the missing person, Cody Haney, out of Liberty County. And we are going to be speaking with Selena Jimenez, and she's a close friend of Cody's. Thank you for being here and welcome to the show. Thank you for having me here. And so we always want to start out by just getting to know our guests a little bit. So Selena, just tell us a little bit about you.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

Oh, yes. Um, so as you know, I'm Selena Jimenez. Um, I'm 24 years old. Uh I am a social work major, and I'm now getting my degree in my master's. And yeah, that's pretty much it for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

I can connect to that right away. I was a special education teacher and had my master's in special education, but I worked with a lot of social workers um in the school. Are you thinking about being a school-based social worker or something different?

SPEAKER_00 1:56

I'm actually thinking about being a social worker for sexual abuse.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

So you're talking about like uh private practice. Yeah, private practice. That tells me that you have a deep care for people. I do. People don't go into that field if they don't have a lot of compassion and empathy for um those around them. So thank you for the future work that you're doing, and congratulations on working on your master's degree. That's a big accomplishment. Thank you. So tell us um about your relationship to Cody, how you knew Cody, and what you want people to know about him.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Um, my relationship with Cody, we were close friends. We've been close friends since elementary school. Um his mother actually used to be my babysitter from time to time. We used to always go over there to have sleepovers, spend time with Cody and his uh siblings. We did stop talking for seven years because I transferred to a whole new school, um, which was kind of a bummer because I kid you not when we met each other again. He literally was like, You abandoned me. And I'm like, I'm sorry. Um but when after that seven years went by, we we found each other again. I actually had wrote him a letter while he was in jail, and I was like, Oh, you know, da-da-da-da-da. And so after that, we connected again and we started hanging out, and we started talking, laughing, and I kid you not, it literally felt like we never had left each other. It was just just like yesterday, all over again when we were kids. Um, we did have big crushes on each other, but we never pushed it further than that. He cared a lot about me and my career. So he seen that his life choices and his criminal record would probably ruin my life and my career. So he decided to step back and he will always tell me, you know, son, you deserve better, you deserve to do good in life, da da da da. And I always when he said stuff like that, I always thought, like, oh my god, he always cares about others. Um he's like he had a he always had a good heart about other people too. But um, yeah. Also, too, I would say Cody was such a bright person. He always smiled and had the the most craziest laugh. Oh my gosh. I can hear it now when I'm thinking about it. But he was just just he just was a great person to be around. He he knew how to make you smile when you were feeling down. Um, I just remember us two as like kids. I will he I was always protecting him and he was always protecting me. I kid you not, we used to get in trouble a lot. We used to get in trouble a lot when we were kids. Because he will always do stuff, and I'm like, Cody, you're not supposed to do that, you're gonna get us in trouble. And he's like, please, Linda, just help me, just you know, help me get not get in trouble. I don't want to get in trouble by my mom and dad. And I kid you not, it's a good uh I memory have I have a Cody is when I can't remember what we did, but we did something bad. And I guess our I guess the school told our parents what we did, and so we got on the school bus and we were just feeling so defeated, and he gets off first, so we look out the window and we see Miss Michelle and his dad, arms folded, waiting for Cody to get off the bus, and we looked at each other and we gave each other a big hug and we're like, goodbye.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

No more hanging out together.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

We thought we were gonna die. Oh my gosh. And then he was so he got off the bus and he's looking at me, and I'm looking at him, and I'm like, oh, we're so screwed. Oh my gosh. Yeah, we got in trouble a lot together. Miss Michelle will literally vouch for that.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

I but I, you know, I I also have you have jogged my memory, a friend that after something happened with that person, I was forbidden from hanging out with that person ever again until I turned like 35. And then I was like, I'm gonna be her friend again. Yeah, Michael, do you have people like that that you got in trouble with? You're not gonna divulge information.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Well, yeah, I mean, you have to understand that there's so much see so many secrets from the military that we can't recommend. But yeah, there's lots of people that I got in trouble with that would they would be upset if I told those stories right now.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Oh, I'm gonna tell it. So we understand, we hear you. And as a parent, I can I can see that crossed arms, probably tapping of the toe. Oh, yeah, cock to the side, just sort of look, yeah, the mom stance. I can totally do it.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Yeah, but I mean, luckily for me, my mom and Miss Michelle were friends, so it was more of like, okay, guys, don't do this again. You can still hang out with stop being bad. And it's like, okay, and then later on, oops, we did something again.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

Well, it sounds like you had kind of a playful relationship. We do. Just you know, it's nothing wrong with getting getting into a little good trouble, as far as I'm concerned, right? Yeah. Now, one of the things that is important to us is that we have a good picture of Cody. And you took you just painted a beautiful picture of him, and it sounds very much like Michelle said, you know, life of the party, smiling, positivity, all those kinds of things. Do you recall anything maybe unusual or different happening with Cody around before or around the time that he went missing? Anything stand out to you?

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Um, not really. I I'm I'm not like when I'm thinking about it, the only thing that I thought was unusual was um, I didn't know he was like struggling a little bit with drugs and stuff. But I did notice that. And but for me, I haven't been there for seven, you know, for the past like seven years. I just popped out of nowhere as I think of it. So I don't I didn't really know that he was struggling with that. So I found that, you know, susp you know, weird.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Because the last time I seen Cody, we were kids, you know. But um other than that, I really don't think so. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

We understand that the last day that Cody was seen was a Friday, and that it was challenging to get a hold of him throughout that weekend, and then he was reported missing on that Tuesday, the 25th. So tell us what you recollect around that time frame.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Around like June 15th, June June 15th, 20th. Um, I actually had gave Cody my phone because actually, Cody, that's that's another thing, but that's something we can talk about later too. But um, so Cody had lost his phone when we was at the river and stuff. So I gave him my old phone and I bought him a whole new SD card. So he um didn't have a phone for a good minute. Um Thursday, June 20th, you know, was nor a normal day as always, because I would just normally pick him up like I always did in the morning and wait for him to get off for work so I can go pick him up. I didn't stay over like I normally do because I had my dog in the car this time, which he thought, oh, you had your dog in the car? Is that a sign that you didn't want to hang out with me? I'm like, no, just gotta go home. Um but on Friday, June 21st, I, you know, I picked Cody up from home and took him to work like I always do. And that's when he had texted me that day and said that, hey, my phone's finally turned on. And that was like around like 1.19. And I was like, finally. And I was like, you could, and I was just joking around. I was like, you can at least say thank you. And he's like, ha ha, yeah, thank you so much. But um, we talked back and forth that whole day, nothing seemed off. Uh he was I guess he was playing around with his phone because he uh he had accidentally had also sent me his like location where he was working at that day, which I didn't pay it no mind. Um I just can't continued on with my day. But then had but then later on in that day, Cody had called me after work, uh like he always did, to ask if I could pick him up. And that was like around six or seven. But um this time I wasn't able to um because um my sisters they wanted us to go hang out in Tallahassee with her uh boyfriend. Um, we did ask Cody if he wanted to come, but he said that he couldn't because he had a curfew. Because my sisters also were very excited that me and Cody were back talking again um because they love Cody. Oh my gosh, they actually had a big crush on Cody too. Oh my gosh. But um, but he was like, no, he couldn't because like I said, curfew and stuff. So we talked a little bit on the phone, continued talking, and then that's when he was like, it's okay, Selena, uh, I'll just call my mom or find somebody else to take to take him home. And then he was like, um, after that, he was like, uh, I will talk to you later. Da-da-da-da. And then he said he'll see me tomorrow because I'd normally be the one that picks him up literally every day. Um, so I waited later that day, never got a call from Cody or even a text message, and so I started texting him while I was hanging out with my sisters like around 556 and 752, but he never responded, which I thought was weird because Cody normally calls or texts me, you know, and stuff like that, but he never did. So I did find that kind of off. And I had like this weird feeling, not like something you get like this weird energy or just like this gut feeling. I was like, I felt like something was like wrong. So that's when Saturday came around, June 22nd, and I was getting ready. I was getting ready to go to Cody's house in the morning, but then I got a call from Miss Michelle asking if um if I seen Cody because the last location was in Bristol, and she said that's what the uh I guess the police had told her from his ankle monitor, and I had told her no, and she was like, Oh, I just assumed that he was probably with you and spent the night with you in Bristol, and I was like, Yeah, no, ma'am. No, um, so we talked a little bit on the phone, and I told her I'll go look for Cody. So I immediately got in my car and I drove around Bristol literally all day from when she called, right when she called me, I hopped in the car and literally was started looking. I looked in every location that I knew Cody would have gone. So I went to his best friend's Jacob's house. I went to Jacob's mother's house, which is literally like down the road from my house. And um, I went to his favorite fishing spots, couldn't find him at all. Um, I kept calling his phone, no nan, no answer. So that was that was pretty much it. So then I kid you not, like I say, when I say I looked all day, I looked all day. Uh I even sat at the drugstore parking lot literally at five o'clock in the morning, thinking that oh, maybe he would show up at his job or something. But um he didn't, so I decided to go home. But other than that, yeah, that's that's pretty much what I did during the weekend. Oh, and then also too, um, I also went to Miss Michelle's house and we, you know, looked drove around looking for him and stuff together, but we couldn't find anything.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

One thing that really stuck out to me there was I can tell you must be a really close friend if you if he divulged his favorite fishing spots.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

He loves fishing.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Because I I don't do that with anybody.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

That's right. This this Michael is also, I mean, I will call him an expert. Expert at fishing. But yeah, you don't give your spots away to people unless you really trust them.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Um so at this point, he's missing, and you know, have we filed a missing person report at this point? No.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

No, this is still this is like Saturday.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Um during Saturday and Sunday, I I was looking around looking for Cody, and I kept thinking about um I kept thinking about I don't know why I kept thinking about Z, but in my it when I while I was searching for Cody, I keep thinking about this this guy named Z. But later on, I I wasn't thinking about I was thinking about Z brother, but I didn't know Z brother's name. So I was getting I was getting and confused. But I knew that I knew that Cody always talks and so something was just telling me that he's with them, he's with them, and so I'm driving around trying to figure out where the heck are they at? And so I'm I started texting people on Facebook, actually, like people from his job. So I started texting Chase, I think that was his name, and he said that he haven't seen Cody since um after work. I think they worked together that Friday. Uh text me at all uh over the weekend, they didn't, so I'm just looking around and I even contacted my friend because like Bristol is so small, and me and Cody, we all had the same friends, kind of. And so I had asked one of our other friends, I don't think he wants me to name his name, so I'm not gonna say his name, but um, I had asked him, like, hey, do you know anybody else that Cody hangs out with? And he was like, Yeah, go go down the road and talk to this guy, he might know. And so me and Miss Michelle drove down there and we asked, and they said they haven't seen Cody at all either. It was more of like we were it we were searching everywhere, asking everybody that supposedly supposed to be friends with Cody. Nobody seen him at all, but something in my heart kept saying But I don't know why, but I but some but I kind of do because Cody always bragged about always bragged about talked about how this good person and um a nice guy and always would do stuff for him and stuff like that, and so I was like, okay, maybe he went off somewhere with since you know he said that just the such a good person, somebody that he trusted. And so I told Ms. Michelle about it because I was like, I don't know what else to you know to do. So yeah, but I did also too, so when Cody went missing over over the weekend, like I said, I gave Cody the new phone. So I so I also went to Cody's job and talked to the boss man who kind of didn't seem too happy to see me. Um, but um and he kind of didn't really want to give me the phone at first because I think he thought I was lying that it was my phone, but it was my phone. But um, I tried to unlock it to see if I could figure out who was the last person Cody contacted because Cody told me his password, but I forgot the password. All I remember was that he said it was his lunch number from when we was in elementary school. Like, what in the world?

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Well, I guess no one would ever guess that, so it's probably a pretty good one.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Oh my gosh, I was like out of all passwords, really. But um, I couldn't unlock it and I didn't want to walk away with it because I don't want I didn't want to get in trouble or anything, even though it is my phone, but I didn't want to get in trouble, so I just gave it back to the boss man. I was like, here, you can you can keep the phone because you're looking at me kind of funny. Um but before I left, the boss man did say that Cody had left his wallet, job keys, and phone in the truck that he used to go home in, like nice and neat, like nothing was out of place. So I thought that was weird.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

And so that's how you got the phone. Because I was about to ask you, how did you get your hands on the phone? So you're describing a work truck, and what I believe his name is Mr. Griggs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

And so then I have a question. The work truck then he was using as he was just going around work for the day, but he was not allowed to use it like drive home, which is why you were supporting him by taking him back and forth to work. Okay, that helps. That helps to understand. So we have this phone keys, wallet is strange. You I don't think you would leave your wallet. You're gonna kind of need that for the weekend. And can we, is it correct that the truck would have been left there like Friday at the end of the work day?

SPEAKER_00 20:05

So from what I gathered, the bossman let Cody take the drug truck home Friday after work to go home because I guess he I guess he never called his mom to pick him up. Because it's either it's either me or his mom that's picks him up and takes him home or you know, drops him off in the morning. Okay. So I'm as I am assuming that the bossman was like, hey, no, yes, this is what he the bossman said he Cody could take the work truck home Friday as long as he can work Saturday. So they made a deal. And so I guess Cody was like, okay, so he did take that work truck home, but but I guess he brought it back and everything was nice and neat as if it was never touched, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

Okay, so he needed that ride home because as you had mentioned, you had plans. He couldn't go all the way into Tallahassee because of the curfew.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

And so he was able to work a deal with the boss, and he got to take that truck home that day and was supposed to come back Saturday morning and work.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Okay. Thank you for that clarification. Um, anything else that you want to tell us? Well, you kind of talked us through Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Um, and then we know two days later this work truck that you're talking about was located. Can you talk about that?

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Um so I'm not sure if it's the same work truck as the one that Cody had taken home that Friday. Um but I did see the work truck and I did see the damage. It did look pretty bad, but it didn't look as if somebody stole it. It had looked like as if somebody had beat the truck on purpose, like with a bat or something. With the truck thing. I Did contact and um on and this was on June 30th, 2024, and I had texted him and I was like, Hey, um, have you seen or heard about Cody? I know everybody's saying that you know you and your brother did something to him, and then is like, oh no, I haven't seen Cody since morning of 009, and I guess that's the location where they said they found the truck. And I was like, um, Cody was supposed to be home Saturday, but he went missing Friday night. So we're so what I'm trying to figure out is what happened, nothing is making sense. Why would Cody go somewhere that he never been before? Then responded and he said, question mark 109, and I was like, Yeah. Responded and he was like, Um, I'm not sure either. I do not know. He said, All I know is that he said that he effed up and couldn't come home. Uh, I didn't really ask a lot of questions. I just tried being an open ear and stayed on and he stayed on high alert, and I and he was very paranoid. My brother was supposed to take him home, but then all hell broke loose. So I responded and I was like, what happened after all hell broke loose? Question mark. Did he run? Question mark. Also, he was hanging out with you guys because he told you he effed up and didn't want to go home. Question mark. That's strange. Stop responding to me. He left me on red. Uh, so then I asked him again. And matter of fact, this is all on uh Facebook Messenger. And uh I had so then I asked him again. I was like, so uh did something happen to Cody? question mark. Finally responded a few hours later, and he has said, I don't know. The last time I seen Cody was that he was traveling traveling fast down 109 in the work truck, and he said that he blew his tire so he couldn't catch Cody. Uh so that's when I responded back to I was like, so y'all had Cody with you guys Friday night, Saturday night. I'm just trying to figure out how he got back to work Sunday Sunday to steal the truck. I literally stood outside the job at 5 a.m. in the morning and and Sunday morning waiting for him, waiting to see if he will be there. And then he said, and then I said he didn't, and I said he didn't, Cody didn't have to get in a lot of trouble, didn't did not reply to my message. So I continue to take tired of me, I'm not gonna lie. Uh then I continue to take. I mean, I'm blowing up his phone, and yeah, I said, if Cody really ran away, do you know where he would have had gone? I'm very con very concerned right now. I am looking all over Bristol since Saturday. Can you explain to me what you mean when you say all hell broke loose? Still dare not reply at all. Yeah, he did not respond to me, and I kept trying to pressure him to say something because like I don't it nothing was adding up, nothing was adding up that weekend, and I didn't get a response back from it until July 2nd, and that's when literally had said that his brother was the one that had stopped by the office before he took Cody home, and that's when they said allegedly that Cody broke through the back door and took the work truck keys, but not after they had started fighting. And he and he quote said small tussle. They said they he they said they tried to help Cody and get him from behind the wheel, but Cody backed backed into his brother's truck and then took off down the road. And so that's when I finally responded and was like, with the same question, because he's not answering my question, and I was like, uh, so I was like, so you and your brother were hanging out with Cody Friday night and Saturday, and y'all just decided to try to take him home Sunday. Nothing is making sense, and that's when locked me on Facebook. Yeah, that's a lot. I'm sorry. No, it's it's good.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

It's a lot, but yeah, it's it's an interesting interesting story. So it's there's a line, there's a lot to unpack there.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

To me, this feels all of these stories feel like puzzles. Yes. And you know, when you first dump the puzzle box out, I always take out the edges, right? And you try to put the edge together and you try to figure out what's going on, and then you try to fit the pieces in. And sometimes the pieces don't fit. And then as you as I can tell, you have good intuition and you're like, wait, this piece doesn't make sense in the picture of my puzzle. Can you help me understand? And then um, it seems like the people who have some of the answers to this puzzle for whatever reason are as of July 2nd are not responding to you.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

So can you talk about the response from law enforcement? So once Cody is identified as a missing person and he's reported as missing, what did the Liberty County Sheriff's Office do?

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Honestly, it excuse my language, it was a shit show. Not gonna lie. I felt, and this is just my opinion, I really felt like they really didn't do anything until Miss Michelle and I and her uh boyfriend went to the sheriff's office and reported him missing. Because um, that's when they had made that post on Facebook saying that he had stole the truck and he is wanted for whatever they had put on there. I can't really remember. And and I felt really angry because I was like, why did y'all just not wait to publicly post that on social media the day that Miss Michelle reported him missing? I feel like that was kind of messed up, but um, and then also I was kind of mad that they believed the two victims who are the ones who are supposedly, uh I don't even know if I could say that, but the one the two the two so-called suspect, I mean witnesses are also the people that were selling Cody drugs. So I felt like um that was kind of weird, but that's nor here or there. But they did have asked the community for a quick second, could could the community help find Cody? But then I'm not gonna lie, some of our classmates kind of lashed out at the police a little bit, and so then the police had turned their gears and said, like, the community need to not help search for Cody, and that um I guess they were gonna like do it themselves and they were gonna get help from other counties to search for him in the woods and stuff. But that's pretty much what I remember they were doing, like with the helicopters and then the dogs and stuff like that. Um, but they did contact me for a short while because I was the owner of the phone, and I gave them permission to get the phone unlocked if they could. But other than that, they really didn't keep in contact with me at all. That's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

You say they perform searches. Are they did they start the searches like around where they found this truck that had been beat up by a what appeared to be a bat?

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

It was strange though, because uh they say they couldn't find Cody's scent in the car. So was Cody ever in that truck? That's what I'm saying. Like this this this whole situation just seems off.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

And you mentioned um that you know, these two witnesses, I'm assuming we're talking about same people that are selling him drugs according to what you understand. This is who we're speaking with at this point. Did he happen to owe them money? Do we know anything like that?

SPEAKER_00 30:55

So I'ma say this, because this I I Cody one day, Cody one day came up to me, he was so excited. And I'm I'm not gonna lie, I'm a very like, um, I was my mom was my mother and my family stuff, they sheltered me a lot, so I didn't really understand what was happening. But Cody came up to me and he was so excited one day, and he said that good guy, man. He um he told me I had to worry, I didn't have to worry about paying him right now, and I can just go get whatever. And I'm looking at him like, huh? What are you talking about? But um, I assumed that it was weed. I don't know what it really was. I really don't know, but I assumed that it was weed, and Cody said that he was gonna pay back for whatever it was. So I don't I don't know if he actually owed him money, but I do know that he did tell Cody, like, oh don't worry about it. You could pay me back later. Da-da-da-da.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

So the question is, and thank you for asking that question, made me it reminded me that one of the things that we like that we think is important when we're trying to help a family is talking about risk factors associated with a missing person or a victim of a crime. And so you've already talked about just generally being involved in drugs or in a circle with people who are doing drugs is obviously a risk factor. Can you think of any other things or behaviors or people that he was hanging out with that would have been considered risky?

SPEAKER_00 32:25

I was other than um, that's pretty much it. Because he had just had um he hadn't gone out of you know jail for too long. And so the only person that he was really in contact with was like me, his, you know, his family, and his co-workers.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

I want to go back to the ankle monitor. You mentioned that earlier, and how the ankle monitor had indicated he had been in Bristol. So, do you have an idea of? I mean, obviously, it seems to me that the ankle monitor somehow is not with him anymore, otherwise, he would have been found immediately. Can you talk about what you think happened with that ankle monitor?

SPEAKER_00 33:10

I have no idea. Um I I don't think Cody would have taken it off. And I say that because I remember one time one time with me and Cody, he had totally forgot to charge his ankle monitor and it started beeping, and he got so paranoid. He was like, Slina, turn around, turn around, turn around. I gotta go charge it. And so we immediately turned around and we sat a while, you know, while he charged his ankle monitor. So I don't think he would have done anything because he Cody was very paranoid about his uh his ankle monitor and not getting in trouble again. He did not want to get in trouble again, he did not want to go back to jail. Um, he really wanted to turn his life around. So he tried his very best to not do anything out out of like, you know, out of the unordinary stay away from risky behaviors.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

Yes, yeah, it sounds like. Can you talk a little bit about the media coverage or lack of media coverage? And the reason I I asked this is because um in our case summary, we went over a little bit. We what I generally do is just a quick search, uh, you know, are there any local news stations who have covered the story? And I really was I found one thing, but it was just a repeat of what you had discussed with the Liberty County Sheriff's Office saying he's wanted for grand theft burglary and all of that kind of stuff. Am I missing something? Was there some kind of local media coverage that I was not able to find?

SPEAKER_00 34:41

No, no. Um, there was there was not a lot at all because because like and I'm not and you know, I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but people was seeing seen Cody going missing as if it was like just another day for Cody, you know? So people didn't really take it seriously, and this is just my opinion, people weren't really taking it seriously until until like they realized like, oh, oh crap, he's he's actually missing. So in the beginning, like even his even his own cousins, I kid you not, um so they were talking crap on social media about Cody, and they were like, oh, this is just another day of Cody running away, or this is just another day of Cody probably doing something that Cody always does. He'll he'll be back, you know. So there was not really a lot of media coverage because nobody was really taking it seriously until now.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

Was it in his nature to sort of, you know, go off the radar for a few, like other than going fishing? Because I know when you go fishing, you're out of signal. But had this happened before when he was unreachable?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

From what my mother told me, um, yes, uh he he will like sometimes, and this is just when he was like, I guess, bad on drugs. That's what I'm saying. I didn't I was never in that his life when he was on drugs like that. So I really don't know. But when he used to be on drugs, um people around the neighborhood or and you know, people will tell my mom and she would tell me that Cody would run off in the woods and um get lost and then he'll find his way back. But it was never to a like, you know, the long period of like this time. It was more of like two days or maybe a day, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Okay, so it's been almost a year and a half since he went missing. Talk a little bit about the impact that this has had on you.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Uh I would say it impact me because for a while I I didn't I don't know how to explain it. It's just sad. It's sad because for me, I'm like, dang, we just found each other again and now he's gone. Um so I literally cry about it every day, and because the last the last thing I keep thinking about is him saying, like, you know, oh you abandoned me, you know, you left me. And and that's something I can remember him saying, and it it bothers me so bad because I never wanted him to ever think that I ever abandoned him. And I and I we made a promise to each other ever since we were kids that we will always be there for each other, um, through thick and thin. Um, no matter whatever happens to him, I'll always be there for him, be there for him. And him going missing, I felt like I kind of didn't keep that promise. And I feel like I didn't protect him as I should have. So I feel like I'm just impacted by like sh like I guess like guilt and and um feeling just like I didn't do my best as I should have as a friend, stuff like that. We just think about it now, trying not to cry, because oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

What can the community do? What can we do to help?

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Um, I'll just say keep spreading the word about Cody being missing, and that's pretty much it. That's all we can really do is just, you know, spread the word and let people know that Cody's a good person, no matter no matter what happened in the past, he's he's still a person and he's and he's missing. And he has a family and he has friends that love and adore him, and that they wish that he was home right now.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

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